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Do I need any special service on the HP 9000 server to get the gopher to work.

(or do I need to "Allow" something, in the unix setup')

I'm not talking about seting up gopher server on the unix, only usit to
get connectet to other gophers on the net.

any help.... out there...?


thanks

Johann S. Jonsson
e-mail:  [e-mail]


ps.

Macintosh gopher client is working fine on this net.

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LANG=""; export LANG
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From [e-mail] Thu Feb 17 16:19:14 1994
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Subject: Re: xwindemo-how to make it work?

In article <2jtmgv$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Philip William Stephenson) writes:
|> Hi all-
|>
|> I downloaded xwindemo from cica last week and am still at a loss as
|> to how to get it to make a meaingfull connection.  I am running
|> Trumpet Winsock 1.00 #18, which works great with other clients, such
|> as qvt, etc.  Can anyone tell me what arguments they pass to xwindemo
|> to get an XDMCP session going (on a Sun, for example)?  I would even
|> be glad to know how someone gets an rsh to work.  I can at least
|> tickle the remote machine with rsh or rexec, but I have never been
|> able to get a window open to it.  Please excuse my ignorance, and
|> thanks in advance for your help.
|>
|> --phil

G'Day Phil

I am posting this since I saw some followups asking similar questions.
First of all let me clarify some things. XDCMP is a connection between
xwindemo and any machine running the X Display Manager (xdm). You can't
use XDCMP otherwise. xdm is something that your system manager should
install. A lot of sys admins, don't since they have no clue and use
whatever comes with the box (Openwindows, Decwindows etc..). installing
xdm should be almost compulsory since there are so many advantages for
application programs as well as security, speed etc.. If you have machines
running xdm, then xwindemo sends a query out to all the machines on your
local network and automagically builds up a list of machines willing to
"talk" to your PC. All you need do then is click on the name of a machine
in the list and its just as if you were sitting at the Sunstatio or whatever.
Its really impressive how well they have done it.

As with rsh, rexec etc.. again you need any machine running Xwindows (no
need for xdm this time). Now, pull down the sessions menu, choose "edit
session". You will get a box. Choose, for example rexec, by clicking on
the little circle at the left-hand corner. Fill in the IP address of the
machine you want to connect to, and your username etc.. and also give
this session a name (eg MYSESSION). In the command box type this:

   xterm -display ip.address.ofyour.pc:0.0

Now, "accept" this and go back and pull down the sessions menu again.
You should see an item MYSESSION. Choosing this will mean xwindemo will
log you into the remote machine, and cause an X windows application program
(namely an xterminal) to be invoked. The xterminal will be created on your
PC since you are runing xwindemo. This is different from mere telnet in
that you are actually running Xwindows on your PC and not just logging in.
You now have access to all the Xwindows programs that are available on
the Unix workstation you connected to. There are thousands of possibilities
depending on what your sys admin has decided to install. In the xterm window
type some of these and see if they work.

       xmosaic, xrn, xclipboard, xclock, xgopher, xeyes, xterm

Note: you can even make another xterm.

    good luck
        Ata <(|)>
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> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 1994 09:54:56 -0500
> From: [e-mail] (Don Levinson)

Hi Don,

> Is anyone out there writing an SNMP management tool for Winsock?
> also I would be interested in an SNMP agent for winsock.

There are already a number of excellent SNMP management tools that
run over WinSock...and many more to come as a result of WinSNMP
progress.  To name just a couple of the major existing products
that I personally have first-hand knowledge of (i.e., there may
well be others):

    - HP OpenView for Windows
    - SNMPc (by Castle Rock)
    - NewtWatch (by NetManage)
    - NetPlus (American Computer)

A number of vendors and developers are working on SNMP management
applications to run over WinSNMP...and one of the most popular
transport interfaces will be WinSock.  We just concluded the first
WinSNMP interoperability "bake-off" last night (hosted by NetManage
in Cupertino) with excellent results and we saw a number of different
transport interfaces among the participants, including:

    - WinSock (over multiple vendors' stacks)
    - WLIBSOCK (Novell)
    - PktDrv implementations
    - Direct-to-Vendor-Stack implementations

All the WinSNMP test applications (including NetManage's NewtWatch)
were able to run as expected without regard to the underlying transport
interface used by the WinSNMP implementation.

Anyway, I guess I'm getting to far off-track from your question....
To summarize:  There are a number of very good SNMP management tools
available now that run over WinSock just fine...and many more will
hit the shelves soon...by which I mean probably just after Spring
Interop.

Regards,

BobN
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Subject: WinSpan? Anyone heard of this?

I'm evaluating  Windows TCP/IP packages currently. Somebody
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Rob Clark, c/o Premenos Corp ([e-mail])
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Subject: Re: KA9Q/slip/winsock troubles

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Bruce Albert) writes:
>The problem is I can't figure out how to get the KA9Q pc to
>route between the slip client and the ethernet.

I once made a dumb assumption about KA9Q which caused a problem like
this.  KA9Q will not route by default.  You must put a "start rip"
command in autoexec.net.

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Subject: Trumpet V1 - BOOTP Problem over SLIP

I'm having problems with Trumpet Winsock v1 picking up the bootp packet
from a term server. The dial script ends with the bootp command followed by
the online command. The ip trace looks like :

Script completed
IP 0.0.0.0        ->255.255.255.255 len 328 prot 17
IP 0.0.0.0        ->255.255.255.255 len 328 prot 17
IP header checksum error
IP 142.32.3.99    ->142.32.3.100    len 328 prot 17
IP 0.0.0.0        ->255.255.255.255 len 328 prot 17
IP 142.32.3.99    ->142.32.3.100    len 328 prot 17
IP 0.0.0.0        ->255.255.255.255 len 328 prot 17
IP 0.0.0.0        ->255.255.255.255 len 328 prot 17
IP 142.32.3.99    ->142.32.3.100    len 328 prot 17
IP 142.32.3.99    ->142.32.3.100    len 328 prot 17
IP 142.32.3.99    ->142.32.3.100    len 328 prot 17

The packets comming back are the bootp packets which are being ignored. No
matter what kind of flow control I use it still fails. Strangely enough it
always works when I turn the udp and extra detail trace on:

Script completed
IP 0.0.0.0        ->255.255.255.255 len 328 prot 17
UDP 68->67 300
01 01 06 00 E1 CC 4F 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 63 82 53 63
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
IP 142.32.3.99    ->142.32.3.100    len 328 prot 17
UDP 67->68 300
02 01 06 00 E1 CC 4F 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
8E 20 03 64 8E 20 03 63 8E 20 03 01 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 63 82 53 63
01 04 FF FF 00 00 FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
BOOTP received
My ip = 142.32.3.100
My gateway = 142.32.3.1
tag:1 len:4
Netmask = 255.255.0.0 Mygateway = 142.32.3.1 Mydns = 142.32.102.25

Has anyone been successful with bootp over slip with Trumpet Winsock V1?
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Subject: Help : Is there a .ini file for Trumptel?
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Is there an .ini file for Trumptel? what is its format? what are its
keywords? The copy I am using is not interpreting line drawing characters
and is not sending function keys. Are these parameters settable?

Mark West
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Subject: Re: KA9Q/slip/winsock troubles

In article <[e-mail]>,
Paul V Hardiman <[e-mail]> wrote:
>In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Bruce Albert) writes:
>>The problem is I can't figure out how to get the KA9Q pc to
>>route between the slip client and the ethernet.
>
>I once made a dumb assumption about KA9Q which caused a problem like
>this.  KA9Q will not route by default.  You must put a "start rip"
>command in autoexec.net.
>

Actually, KA9Q will route, and in fact you can not disable it.  However,
it will not advertise that it will route (which start rip causes it to
do if your subnet is using RIP).  Another method is to use the arp
publish and have it RARP / proxy arp if there is only a few PC's rather
than a whole net behind it.


milton
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Subject: Re: Looking for Telnet

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Tex) says:
>
>I'm looking for a good telnet package for the winsock.
>Presently using the NCSA version, works ok, but would like more options
>like key defines and terminal emulations
>
Try WinQVT/Net. Its Telnet supports VT5x, VT1xx, VT2xx. You can set up different
terminal configurations including keymaps, scripts and some other features.

You'll get it via ftp from biochemistry.bioc.cwru.edu.
The winsock version is qvtws396.zip

Hope that helps.

HJB
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Subject: WinFSP: Does it work for anyone?

I tried to get Win FSP to work (IT LOOKS NICE!!!) but no matter what host
or port I try, immediatly after I click OK, it pops up a message saying it
couldn't connect.  I am using Trumpet Winsock.  I've had no problem
connecting to the hosts via FTP or Telnet either :)

Any clues?

    -Dan
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